At the risk of seriously offending some dear friends, I want to take a comparative look at the relative successes and failings of two similar projects. Both began around the same time, both began with very similar ideas behind them; one in a big city, Baltimore, was put in motion by a dedicated group of politically-oriented revolutionaries who- despite a diversity of lifestyles, individual interests and opinions, and personal backgrounds- came together in a politically and socially unified manner to start Red Emma’s Bookstore Coffeehouse. The other, Langdon Street Cafe, is located in the much smaller city of Montpelier, VT (a “city” only by rural standards) and was put in motion by a small group of people with varying degrees of social affiliation and little if any political commonalities; as we’ll see, this group’s “politics” is loosely existent at all, beyond individualism and lifestyle choices. Where Red Emma’s was the product of left radicals from a variety of traditions but unified around some of the most basic socialist principles, the Langdon Street Cafe’s “leftness” was a product as much of the larger community’s political understanding as it was any educated and learnt principles on the part of the founders.
To be clear at the onset: I was one of the five people who started the Langdon Street Cafe back in 2004. The other four people involved in the project are people I consider friends (some closer than others, but that’s a digression) and are all people I care about and respect deeply. None of my following critique’s about anyone’s personal politics, social mores, or personal priorities should be understood as contrary to these things. I can like people, hold respect for and care deeply about people without agreeing (or even liking) aspects of their character or political orientations. I would find no fault in anyone holding the same towards me. I’m also a big fan of the Langdon Street Cafe and one of it’s best customers: I get my coffee there nearly every morning and have personally spent untold numbers of paychecks there on breakfast, lunch, and beers during a show. That I find fault in what it is versus what I had originally hoped it to be (or thought it could be) is not to insinuate that what it is has no value, nor that the people responsible for it over the years aren’t some of the best there are. Whatever political conclusions I may draw bellow- or in general- are certainly mine and it could be argued- perhaps fairly- that the “failure” lies in my understanding or expectations of the project from the outset. Though I may disagree with that, it could nonetheless be a fair conclusion to reach.
What I’m setting out to write about here though is a comparison between two political projects, both very similar at their outsets, and both arriving today at very different places. That Langdon Street ever was a political project (or that it isn’t now) may be questionable to some of my fellow co-founders; perhaps contrary points most telling of my overall thesis here.
Both Red Emma’s in Baltimore and Langdon Street in Montpelier were founded as worker-owned coffeeshops. Both were born not just to be coffeeshops, but to be community spaces where individuals, artistic endeavors, and political groups could find space to gather, feed themselves (both physically and, for lack of a better word, spiritually), and grow and flourish out into the larger world. In many ways, this is precisely where the similarities end. True, both offer fairly similar menus of coffees, teas, drinks, breakfast, lunch, and baked goods focused on fair trade, local, organic, and healthy; both can be said to be more conscientious of alternative dietary needs (vegetarian, vegan, gluten free) than the average cafe. But whereas Red Emma’s is decidedly and intently a radical space created by individuals with more than a passing awareness of libertarian left issues and history (in fact, generally a dedication to the advancement of libertarian left issues and ideals), LSC has always had a more confused and amorphous identity which is far more oriented towards artistic individualism and liberal class notions than anything identifiably radical.
Before looking at what the two spaces are today, lets first consider what they were on their outset. Both RE’s and LSC’s birth were as collectively run, worker-owned coffeeshops. RE’s took a bit of a more traditional infoshop angle, with a radical bookstore as part of their space. LSC, lacking the will or means to do the same, sublet part of their space to Black Sheep Books (which has since moved out to their own space). As far as how each space was used in their earlier days, RE’s used their space largely for political and social meetings, presentations, talks, debates. They had musical acts and art shows, but kept very much focused on using their space as a vehicle for political projects of all (left) stripes to speak their voice. LSC’s monthly schedule from the onset was focused heavily on music and art; Black Sheep Books was given the reigns of organizing and presenting all non-music or theatre events, first twice a month (almost never on weekends) and eventually just once a month (the enthusiasm and commitment of BSB organizers plays into this as well; it’s not solely a matter of LSC’s impedes). But from the get-go a certain degree of tension existed between the LSC Collective (the owners) and BSB’s and their events. True, LSC was continually in tricky financial ground and shows with people drinking lots of beer was a much needed source of good revenue. At the same time, LSC often viewed the BSB events as foreign, outside, odd. Tellingly enough I guess, there was little interest from LSC in BSB events because, well, the majority of both owners and workers weren’t interested in radical politics (outside of what they deemed their own personal radical politics- a lifestyle-ist approach which I’ve railed against on this site ad nauseam) (and though I’m referring specifically to the LSC collective/”owners” I’m excluding myself, in general, from this broad stroke since I did in fact attend many BSB events and did in fact engage regularly with BSB both socially and politically and in the planning of events; I was in fact the only LSC collective member to actually volunteer as well at the book store).
When we get into examining the “collective ownership” and management of the two spaces we really begin to hit the meat of my heartbreak.
The founders of RE’s (I can speak only in general terms here; though I’ve known a few of them, I do not know them closely; nor did I specifically interview anyone from RE’s for this piece- it’s based on common knowledge and a handful of passing conversations I’ve had with people involved with RE’s over the years) came together specifically to establish a radical community space which could support and push forward the ideas of socialism and libertarian principles. They chose a worker-owned, collectively managed model because that is in line with their basic political and social beliefs. Though the RE’s collective has never been a platformist group in the sense of any kind of stated tactical, political unity amongst it’s ranks, it is and has always been decidedly radical left, anti-capitalist, and anti-authoritarian at its very core.
Of LSC’s politics, I would say (and in doing so raise the eyebrows no less of my co-founding friends) that I was the only one involved with an overtly political orientation- let alone overtly radical political orientation. The four other co-founders were each in themselves a mix of individualism, liberal to casual socialist leaning, and above all else “green” in their identity politics. The very notion of being “worker owned” was one that I put forth at the get-go and which I had to explain, outline, and insist upon. To be sure, there wasn’t much push-back against the idea as initially proposed, there were always lingering questions and doubts about the usefulness, purpose, and meaning behind “worker ownership” or “collective management”.
In this regard I deserve a fair amount of blame. Though at the time my theoretical understanding of how to operate (and why) a collectively-run project was decent enough, my real-world experience in collective decision making and management was confined solely to activism and political collectives (such as the former Green Mountain Anarchist Collective- NEFAC VT). I had no experience- nor did I know anything really about- how the collective model best or even could translate into operating a business within the world’s largest capitalist empire. On top of this, none of the five of us knew anything whatsoever about running a business- let alone a coffeeshop/art space/music venue. In the end I think the challenges of the latter overwhelmed the group’s patience for my singular interest in developing the former. And herein lies the crux of my thesis here and the biggest lesson I learnt (among, many, many lessons) from my experience at LSC: radical political projects do not and cannot be accomplished by liberal or reformist-minded groups. At the very least, a radical minority is up against nearly insurmountable challenges when trying to organize a specifically radical project with liberals.
Over time I did gain a foothold on many- if not all- of the necessary aspects of how to cohesively operate a collectivized, worker-owned business. But time and again my insights into some of our biggest challenges were passed over by the nearly constant financial struggles of the business itself and the democratic will of the (liberal) group. This leads to two separate points: the first is about the worker’s themselves. As we struggled to understand how to expand the collective we found ourselves in the position of hiring employees to accomplish the labor of running the shop. Despite a number of attempts to develop systems by which ownership could be offered or even given to “employees”, except for one singular occasion none were ever interested. This struck me at first as incredibly odd- why would anyone choose to be but a cog in the machine rather than have the privilege of owning one’s own time and labor? The problem with my thinking, of course, was many-fold. For starters, we do not live in a society that educates us in any way at all about the nature of ownership, labor for wages, or the like. People weren’t interested in being “part-owners” of a business because they didn’t identify themselves by their age, class, or occupation as a “coffeeshop owner”. They were generally twenty-somethings looking to make their minimum wage paycheck and some tips and then go home or out partying. The very meaning of ownership, let alone “employee-ownership”, was foreign. Add to that the constant financial struggles and “ownership” simply did not appeal to (nearly) anyone.
Surely, part of this reality is dictated by locale and community. Baltimore, with over 630,000 people packed into a mere 80 square miles, is about equal in population with the entire State of Vermont and it’s 9,250 square miles. Montpelier is the country’s smallest state capital with only 8,000 residents, and the larger “Central Vermont” community (Montpelier’s “metropolitan area”, if it could be called that) would boast a population of around 60,000 people if you allow for the fact that this entails the out-lying residents of the region driving nearly an hour on winding back roads. While I don’t see any reason for these demographic realities to dictate the political nature of either project, it does have a tremendous influence on the social nature of each. Worker ownership, collectivism, can and does exist among multi-thousand person businesses in New York City as well as a handful of friends or acquaintances in the most rural of outposts. But in a major metropolitan area such as Baltimore Red Emma’s is afforded a certain degree of lateral movement with their image, offerings, social focus, and of course potential participants. In close-knit, everyone knows everyone Montpelier, LSC is far more beholden to putting forth a product and space that is inclusive to as many people as possible; simply enough, without as much business as possible from the widest swath of the community it just couldn’t survive. These are practical, logistical realities that cannot be ignored when comparing these two projects.
The second point here though is about collective management and worker-ownership itself. Members of the larger community, as well as a number of people involved with LSC, simply fail to grasp the inherent strength in collective, or group, ownership and decision making. Despite the many challenges and flaws of our group, whenever someone would add or off-handedly suggest that part of the challenge was simply that there were so many owners I simply had to scoff: my hours were long, my stress was high, and the decisions before me often important- thank the Lord there were a group of other people there to rely on and take parts of the burden of running a small business. What I simply don’t understand is how people do it themselves! The simple fact of the matter is that each and every one of us has to work; when we feel a sense of ownership, of responsibility, of pride and investment (energetically, personally, or even financially), that’s when we actually step-up to the plate. When we know that our opinions and experiences matter- to our colleagues and peers and co-workers- and we know that giving less than 100% is not just harming others but in fact screwing ourselves over- that’s when we step it up and give our all. And any business or project is always going to be its most successful when everyone involved is operating at that level. Distracted arguments misunderstanding about the supposed difficulty of occasional voting, or listening intently to each other, or respecting the will or the fears of each other, or cooperating are straw men riding paper tigers. True, participation (real democracy) is slightly more challenging and time-intensive than dictatorship. Some of us- generally known as “radicals” or “anarchists” happen to believe that that’s OK and in fact that democracy, despite it’s challenges and occasional sloppiness, is much more desirable and fair than the alternatives.
So Red Emma’s is today a solid, successful radical space where socialist, libertarian ideas are placed on stage for the world to see; where people come together to learn, to interact, to share, or to simply get a cup of coffee. While in and of itself it will surely not change the world or put an end to capitalism or patriarchy or human suffering, it is a light on the horizon doing something meaningful to shape our world in the biggest sense.
Which is not meant to take away from what Langdon Street is- a solid, successful space where creativity and a “different approach” is on stage. But at its best LSC’s politics are little more than green, “funky”, artistic, and individual. The promise of that sort of “revolution” was squashed in the 1960’s. For all that it is- it is not a political nor a revolutionary space. And that was a predictable outcome, given the politics of the people who created it and shaped it. Liberals do not create radical spaces.







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June 21, 2009 at 5:52 am
JD Ryan
Wow, great post. You basically got in bed with the wrong people, and the end results shouldn’t have surprised you. But demographics have a lot to do with it too, gutter-punks, as well as young adults who don’t have to work for a living/worry about money because of whatever reason don’t necessarily make for a radical clientele. A lot of ‘em just wanna put on their Halloween costume that they somehow leave on all year and have a good cupa joe or a brew and listen to whatever the latest musical trend-du-jour is (is it “post-punk” this week, or “Americana”? I can’t keep track any more). And of course, there’s nothing wrong with that, it is what it is and it works for the community.
June 23, 2009 at 1:07 pm
fasteddy
oh, and come on out J.Ry…I’ll buy you a drink, this Saturday at LSC, doug perkins, patrick ross, gordon staned and Mike Santasusso…it’ll be bad ass acoustic stuff..
otherwise, you should come see BIG TREE on July 11…google
‘em
June 21, 2009 at 7:00 am
jrochkind
I wonder if some of this is ‘grass is always’ greener for some of us with certain mindsets too. Being peripherally involved with Red Emma’s — I DO think it’s a really valuable project, which, among other things, provides some really great reading materials to purchase (which is important and valuable), and serves as networking hub and event-space resource for a mostly already existing leftist community in Baltimore (also an important and valuable role; smaller Montpelier likely has less of an already-existing leftist community)… but I’m not sure whether or not RE’s owners and volunteers have even the degree of unity of politics you think.
And in general, something I’ve been thinking of lately after a decade or so of involvement with such “infrastructural” projects in a couple different cities — what actually _makes_ a, for example, coffee shop/bookstore project ‘truly radical’ as opposed to just ‘liberal’ and ‘bohemian counter-cultural’? How do you tell the difference? What IS the difference? I’m not actually sure — I’ve seen, and been involved with, and spent a lot of time on projects whose original founders had radical ideologies, and I’m not sure if or how the _products_ of those intentions have turned out differently than your description of the Montpelier project as a liberal/bohemian rather than radical space. I’m not sure they haven’t, I’ve just been thinking about what that even means, and how you tell. Interested in hearing what others think.
June 23, 2009 at 1:10 pm
fasteddy
Many good points…the fact is, it’s hard for radical to stay in biz-ness…especially when the rent is high!!!
June 21, 2009 at 8:42 am
jrochkind
Thinking about this more, here’s an interesting question to me, just in general. We _often_ find ourselves working with people who’s politics are not exactly our own. Whether that’s liberals/progressives, ‘ordinary people’, or other self-proclaimed radicals who we realize (earlier or later) don’t share our own politics and/or political understanding as much as we thought.
Sometimes we think “Gee, I wish I could be working with a group that is just right-on politically, it would be so much easier.” Sometimes I think that’s just ‘grass is greener’, in almost any group there will be political differences discovered as work progresses. But still, sure you can say “that’s a problem I’d like to have, political differences working with other serious radicals.” Still, whether we live in Montpelier or New York City, we can’t none of us only engage with other revolutionaries or radicals, there aren’t nearly enough revolutionaries to do so, that just turns into cultish sectarianism or separatist ‘lifestylism’.
So, without the luxury of working only with groups that all more or less agree with us and are ‘radical enough’ — how do we decide which projects and groups are nonetheless worth working on/with, and how we do figure out how to engage in those projects to build toward more radical ends, and to move the individuals we work with toward more radical understandings and goals, without being self-righteous or didactic, and remembering that we don’t have all the answers either?
I don’t know, and I’m not neccesarily that good at it, but that’s really what we all have to deal with, whether you’re in Montpelier or a larger urban area, that’s my experience. One of the dangers in a larger urban area (that I can fall into myself), is being more self-satisfied because you’ve surrounded yourself with people who can talk the talk, when you still haven’t necessarily figured out how to walk the walk. But we figure it out as we try, right.
June 21, 2009 at 8:15 pm
wdh3
Thanks for chiming in jrochkind. You raise some really great points and questions.
I see how my piece perhaps pushes too much the notion that “Red Emma’s is radical and good, Langdon Street not” which, true, was sorta my point, but not entirely. More so what I wanted to drive was that RE’s is radical because it is collectively run and owned, and for whatever differences there are amongst the people involved in the project (short of if there are elements within the collective that what to do away with the collectivist structure of the place) there is nonetheless at least an understanding a commitment to anti-capitalism and anti-authoritarianism. By no stretch is this the case at LSC.
One of the main reason’s I think of radical spaces (and particularly radical businesses) as being very positive is because it gives us experience in cooperating, in acting as a group, as accomplishing real-world, participatory democracy (with all the sloppiness and challenges of it). As I say in the piece, one of the biggest challenges radical’s face when interacting with the world is that we generally don’t have any experience, education, or understanding about what it looks and feels like to interact- socially, economically, or whatever- in this manner. To the degree that people involved in such projects get this experience, and take that further into the other aspects of their lives, I think that’s a positive. As well, to the degree that such spaces can be successful and can interact with the larger community (even if it’s just “non-radicals” coming in for their morning coffee and muffin) I think there’s a net benefit for the whole of the community. Even if someone’s not hugely interested in such things, knowing that the idea is even out there and that it can and does work is at least a step forward.
In my opinion, these are much more “radical” than artistic and individualist elements such at what one finds at a place that is simply run in the same-old-capitalist manner of an owner and employees but that has a “funky” punk/hippie/bohemian aesthetic.
On the subject of engaging and working with people who don’t necessarily share our radical politics, well, that of course happens all the time unless we socially or politically isolate ourselves. The majority of my closest friends have very little in common with me, politically (at least in name or abstract- my closest friends who would never identify as “anarchist” nonetheless aren’t authoritarian-minded, racist, homophobic, I-love-capitalism sorts of people). Likewise, in a lot of the political work I’ve done in my life has had few if any similarly minded folks involved- this has been a lot of labor, anti-war, etc stuff. But just as I’d say there’s a real “radical” value to something like labor organizing or supporting organized labor (regardless of someone’s personal politics, the process of working together, of standing up to the bosses, of demanding something more fair, of demanding a voice on the job, has a very similar sort of “educational” effect on us and our community; we aren’t taught at any point in our education how to stand up to arbitrary authority, to question those with power or the power-weak position we may find ourselves in at work, but when we experience these things first hand, and learn how these things are possible and even empowering and even beneficial, that- even if it’s often just in a small way- is a radicalizing force.
As for whether or not these radical spaces or projects or elements are revolutionary- well, that remains to be seen. I guess I see it all as the building blocks that will hopefully someday make revolution possible.
June 23, 2009 at 1:02 pm
fasteddy
hell yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 23, 2009 at 7:26 pm
watercloset
I thought that LSC was a collective. At least initially. What happened there?
Collectives can be difficult. Personalities and egos can conflict and take apart the mission that the collective was designed for. I was on a collective editorship on a newspaper once back in my halycon college days. Somehow we survived our term on the newspaper, but it was not the easiest going. I have seen collectives work as communities too, over in Israel on a kibbutz. This was a socialist utopia kind of collective where everyone revolved through the differing jobs and the factory manager might find himself/herself washing dishes. These took a certain unity of purpose to work, though:)
June 24, 2009 at 9:25 am
fasteddy
LSC is no longer a collective…it is now a “family-owned business”.
June 24, 2009 at 9:31 am
wdh3
LSC hasn’t been a collective since about 6 months in… for 3 years there was at least an honest attempt to make/continue it as so, but, honestly, it just never was collectively run, democratic, or participatory. Not by any definition. It breaks my heart…
June 24, 2009 at 10:05 am
watercloset
Family-run? I thought that just one of the original collective was there now running it with Darcy. In any case, it does break my heart too; the collective ownership is still part of the spirit of the place. I never got into the inner-workings of the place, but thanks for the info on it.
June 25, 2009 at 12:06 am
Colin
Darcy is moving; I played with the band at her going away party last night. Now it is just Meg and the baby.
Thanks for the post. I’ve tried to stay relatively ignorant of the inner workings of the Cafe because there was a lot of struggle for definition and business viability, and a lot of heartbreak and difficulty, already when I moved back to Montpelier. I have always appreciated the space, the people, and the original intentions towards an alternative business model.
While there’s more I’d like to say about this, I have to get back to work. But I think we should consider that if the revolution ever hits the streets, the Army of Fun, or lifestyle radicals, may be among the front lines (not that that’s necessarily how I imagine the revolution happening).
I think it is also important to remember that the Cafe was the official sponsor of Montpelier’s best worst softball team for two years! Go Tigers, I mean Pirates! What do you think Red Emma’s softball team’s BPG average is? I’m coming to watch the games tonight. See you there.
June 25, 2009 at 9:57 am
watercloset
I did not know that Darcy was moving, though it would not be surprising since she and I are not friends. But what is Meg going to do without her?
I like Langdon and its attempts at the alternative business model. To be honest, I am astonished that it has come this far. but I would hazard that this is mostly due to fast eddy’s booking talents. Too bad the collective did not work, but it’s still a great place to hang out.
June 26, 2009 at 3:32 am
fasteddy
Well, my booking talents will no longer be used by the place, as they don’t think it is worth their expenditure anymore, so, you’re theory will be put to the test, Watercloset ;^)
June 27, 2009 at 2:37 am
Betty Turner
Thanks for this reflective post. It’s interesting to hear your perspective on the “collective” goings-on and attempts at creating a worker-owned collective business model out of the LSC. I often wondered how you envisioned the space early on compared with how it was/is.
I was frankly skeptical about the worker collective approach from the beginning after probing a collective member about how ya’ll were leaning towards some structural challenges that I’d faced once, in a failed attempt to start a collective store. The most daunting aspect, for me, was how to structure “new member” buy-in — not to mention decision-making challenges, and skill-value appreciation versus cash-up-front issues.
It seemed like my questions were a little overly nuanced for the level of understanding about collectively run businesses, which didn’t seem like a good sign. It was more of a “we’ll figure it out once we open” attitude.
I’m curious if you, or anyone else, knows how detailed a “business plan” was developed at Red Emma’s before opening day — if they had sorted all this stuff out beforehand or figured it out ad hoc…?
Maybe it isn’t that LSC started with the wrong mix of people with divergent politics, but rather the details weren’t hashed out enough before hitting the ground towards opening day.
That being said, there’s something powerful about momentum — and the rush to start something new based on a variety of good intentions.
June 27, 2009 at 7:43 pm
wdh3
In my experience the new member “buy-in” is by far the biggest challenge; having a system of fluid ownership that’s fair and translates into a world in which “ownership” is a tightly guarded fraternity is no easy task. As for “we’ll figure it out once we open”, well, that was more or less the line to keep collectivization questions and concerns pacified in the face of the front of the house business concerns.
I don’t know about Red Emma’s business plan, but I’d definitely agree that LSC’s biggest mistake and problem was a matter of not addressing extremely important questions before jumping in. That was true of the “worker owned” aspects as well as the running a business aspects. I’d also agree that momentum based on good intentions was exactly the power that made LSC happen in the first place (and that it did happen is quite a good thing).
June 30, 2009 at 7:32 pm
JD Ryan
I think one challenge facing the co-operatively owned model (and in many ways society itself) is that although many times, the people involved have similar goals or intentions, there is often a huge disparity in the level of useful skills they have. SOme people are well-intentioned, but idiots. Or well-intentioned but incredibly unskilled. I saw that a lot with the fiasco in our food co-op here in town a few years ago. And when you couple that with a pervasive “live-and-let-live” mentality taken to an extreme that often includes “don’t criticize or offend someone in any way shape or form – that’s oppressive”, it often turns into a recipe for incompetent disaster. Not saying that’s LSC, but also knowing some of the individuals involved over the years, I can see how that would be a problem.